I'm guessing 70 losses-40 wins over a 10 year period ** -- HokieNLot11 05/08/2021 5:25PM
This Fall will mark 10 yrs since #Mizzou joined the SEC....... -- accfootballrules 05/07/2021 07:39AM
Why? Relative to Oregon, Missouri is in the SE US. ** -- PhotoHokieNC 05/08/2021 1:16PM
Same result as Mizzou IMO, only we'd be a lot worse now -- soflahokie 05/07/2021 3:58PM
Why wouldn’t Frankie B cut it??? -- accfootballrules 05/07/2021 4:59PM
Well.... We have not done well in the ACC for the most part in the last 7 -- 949hokie 05/07/2021 8:26PM
Let's compare... know which one would increase season ticket demand... -- ChazB 05/07/2021 12:57PM
UK,Vandy, comparable to Duke,Wake Games?? -- accfootballrules 05/07/2021 4:54PM
Those two slightly better -- crazylane 05/07/2021 9:59PM
Can you imagine VT getting pummeled annually -- Pride_and_Joy 05/07/2021 3:19PM
So u think we would get beat like 45 Zip,28 to 3, 60 to nothing?? Lol ** -- accfootballrules 05/08/2021 4:24PM
Yeah, and unfortunately, a big part of the potential spike in ticket -- reestuart 05/08/2021 08:41AM
Rabid, travelling fan bases -- crazylane 05/08/2021 7:18PM
It could be "suggested" that we are presently getting our butts kick -- FLKEYSHOKIE 05/07/2021 8:36PM
You are living in 2021 -- crazylane 05/07/2021 5:44PM
VT has never been a top 15 program. ** -- Jeffroww 05/07/2021 6:17PM
Fake news, please research 1999-2010 * ** -- sacramento hokie 05/08/2021 09:57AM
There are many ways to measure -- crazylane 05/07/2021 7:07PM
That is at best..... -- 2hhoop3 05/07/2021 6:34PM
We finished in Top 15 in 95, 96, 99, 00, 04, 05, 07, 08 and 09….. -- CrystalCoveHokie 05/07/2021 6:33PM
Who were our best wins those years ** -- accfootballrules 05/08/2021 4:26PM
From 95-09…. Miami ranked 2, 9, 9, 17 and 18, WVA 6, Tex 9, VA 13, 16 & 16 -- CrystalCoveHokie 05/08/2021 7:33PM
Just off the top of my head -- crazylane 05/08/2021 7:26PM
Program is more about national perception, $$$$ than wins -- VTCALS72 05/07/2021 7:17PM
What actually defines "national perception" ? ** -- PhotoHokieNC 05/08/2021 1:16PM
IMHO whether ESPN sees the school as a team for prime time -- VTCALS72 05/08/2021 6:24PM
Well... that was us back in our glory years! ** -- NokieHokie 05/08/2021 6:26PM
Yeah, my wife keeps saying she was glad we were here for the -- saret 05/08/2021 6:43PM
Everybody is entitled..... -- 2hhoop3 05/07/2021 7:31PM
What was that undefeated Florida team a couple years back -- VTCALS72 05/08/2021 08:14AM
I believe the team...... -- 2hhoop3 05/08/2021 10:31AM
Yep, college football is nowhere close to the nfl model anymore ** -- 83Hokie 05/13/2021 7:14PM
Excellent response -- VTCALS72 05/08/2021 11:09AM
I think the special marketing mystique...... -- 2hhoop3 05/08/2021 11:38AM
I disagree. We were absolutely a national brand. ESPN crowned us one of the -- NokieHokie 05/07/2021 7:25PM
Obviously this response is not to you. -- VTCALS72 05/08/2021 08:36AM
We were a Cinderella for a long time. Frank just would not do the necessary -- NokieHokie 05/08/2021 12:26PM
Agreed, I remember getting annoyed at how overrated we were. -- Hokie 04 05/08/2021 08:12AM
We/VT kept pooping our pants. Messing the bed on the big stage -- 91HokieBob 05/07/2021 11:59PM
Yep. Losing to Kansas told me that as a program VT just could not get -- HokieNLot11 05/08/2021 5:23PM
ESPN tried to prop us up, but Frank kept sweeping the leg underneath us... ** -- NokieHokie 05/08/2021 12:01AM
So you really believe that Frank Beamer was THE major weakness? -- VTCALS72 05/08/2021 08:39AM
Both can be true at the same time... ** -- NokieHokie 05/08/2021 12:23PM
Yes indeedy! Even they eventually got tired and moved on so to speak ** -- 91HokieBob 05/08/2021 12:03AM
They had no choice, we forced them to give up on us! :( ** -- NokieHokie 05/08/2021 12:03AM
My beliefs also ! ** -- FLKEYSHOKIE 05/07/2021 9:28PM
Yes I can. It would be fun to have a high level of competition -- WildTurkE 05/07/2021 4:18PM
It is possible that VT may have been forced to adapt instead of being -- VTHokie2000 05/08/2021 12:58AM
Meh, we lost to Liberty, ODU and JMU. Me thinks we peaked ** -- WildTurkE 05/08/2021 1:44PM
Every program, including the blue bloods, have at least 1 bad loss -- VTHokie2000 05/11/2021 8:35PM
They didn't want Mizzou, they wanted us. But we have an ACC worship fetish. ** -- NokieHokie 05/07/2021 12:40PM
And what has this "ACC fetish" really bought us, that the SEC couldn't ? ** -- FLKEYSHOKIE 05/07/2021 8:48PM
Exactly right, and still believe the ACC didn't really want us at the time. ** -- hokie77 05/07/2021 1:19PM
There's no doubt the ACC didn't want us. Well documented. -- Hokie 04 05/08/2021 08:14AM
I've heard that the SEC wanted us instead of Mizzou several times -- HartwoodHokie 05/07/2021 1:09PM
The smoke is that we were approached, but declined. ** -- NokieHokie 05/07/2021 1:13PM
IMHO Tech not going into the SEC was a bad decision. I believe that -- HokieNLot11 05/14/2021 1:36PM
I agree 100%! ** -- NokieHokie 05/14/2021 1:43PM
I've heard that before, but does anyone have any real details? ** -- HartwoodHokie 05/07/2021 1:28PM
F'n Weaver would have used airport runway length as a reason. -- Hokie 04 05/08/2021 08:18AM
While that answer..... -- 2hhoop3 05/08/2021 7:45PM
I don't remember what kind of details were available at the time, but all -- NokieHokie 05/07/2021 1:50PM
A well kept secret ! ** -- FLKEYSHOKIE 05/07/2021 8:52PM
Yeah like who sent out the smoke? -- VTCALS72 05/07/2021 1:46PM
We would have been the natural book-end for the Texas A&M addition, the -- Tuckahokie 05/07/2021 11:26AM
We are better off in ACC than SEC….being in B1G would be better than both ** -- CrystalCoveHokie 05/07/2021 12:05PM
B1G = SEC tv money but ACC-level competition ** -- Pride_and_Joy 05/07/2021 12:46PM
Would we have done better than Mizzou? With our fan base that doesn't -- UTPr0sim 05/07/2021 08:20AM
Not sure I ever saw us have a SEC caliber recruiting staff ($$$$). ** -- UTPr0sim 05/07/2021 4:13PM
Yes -- crazylane 05/07/2021 2:05PM
This is a good argument in favor. -- Pride_and_Joy 05/07/2021 3:49PM
I think it would be incredibly different. No way Fu survives... -- njhokie06 05/07/2021 09:33AM
We probably wouldn’t have hired Fuente in the first place. ** -- Pride_and_Joy 05/07/2021 3:50PM
We would be doing much better in football. We would -- BaldHokie 05/07/2021 08:18AM
Lane was full when we were winning, now seldom a sell out -- 83Hokie 05/13/2021 9:05PM
Exactly -- crazylane 05/07/2021 9:53PM
If A&M is a litmus I don't think it matches your opinion -- DallasHokie98 05/07/2021 2:28PM
We would have zero SEC hardware -- crazylane 05/08/2021 07:10AM
I do think it might have a moved the needle a little on recruiting -- TekkNerd 05/07/2021 1:23PM
To quote nature boy Rick Flair, “if you don’t cheat, you can’t -- The Big Cat 05/07/2021 12:33PM
Or any other conference... ** -- NokieHokie 05/07/2021 12:41PM
This is wishful thinking. VT would be just another Mizzou, SC, MSSt, etc ** -- marcbvtgm 05/07/2021 12:07PM
I disagree. We would get eaten alive by the machine. -- YardBird 05/07/2021 10:02AM
You don't think VT (and its fans) would find a way to get over -- VTHokie2000 05/07/2021 11:44AM
No, I don’t think so. -- YardBird 05/07/2021 4:24PM
Thanks for your opinion. It is an interesting hypothetical to talk about. ** -- VTHokie2000 05/08/2021 12:09AM
It remains to be seen if they have even gotten over the ACC curve -- Synaesthesia 05/07/2021 12:38PM
You may be right. However, when I was a student at VT in the late 90s -- VTHokie2000 05/08/2021 12:38AM
I doubt ...... -- 2hhoop3 05/07/2021 11:54AM
Even if 70/75K doesn't move the needle in the SEC -- VTHokie2000 05/07/2021 12:22PM
Yep, I think we'd be comparable to Mizzou ** -- BROman Hokie 05/07/2021 11:27AM
Exactly what was said when VT joined the Big East football conference -- hokiewasp 05/07/2021 10:59AM
Why? because we had our once in a generation HOF coach? ** -- VTCALS72 05/07/2021 1:54PM
We had a coach with ability & a vision--- we have neither now ** -- hokiewasp 05/07/2021 5:19PM
Also said about the ACC..... -- 2hhoop3 05/07/2021 11:58AM
VT would be a different animal with SEC revenue ** -- hokiewasp 05/07/2021 12:30PM
Speaking of animals, Auburn and LSU were 6-4 & 5-5 respectively last season -- WildTurkE 05/07/2021 1:11PM
True, but last year was all conference games -- Hokie 04 05/08/2021 08:35AM
Auburn got a new coach @ 6-4 VT got FU'ed again @5-6 ** -- hokiewasp 05/07/2021 1:14PM
BINGO! ** -- NokieHokie 05/07/2021 12:41PM
Yeah, VT's early dominance of the ACC was surprising. I'm not sure the -- reestuart 05/07/2021 12:11PM
Every other school in the Big East was basically coming from the same place -- reestuart 05/07/2021 11:58AM
Syracuse was a player back then even before McNabb ** -- hokiewasp 05/07/2021 12:32PM
They were decent. About the same as WVU. They had some really good -- reestuart 05/07/2021 2:08PM
Different conference culture and also very different time -- Synaesthesia 05/07/2021 11:37AM
Can't assume VT would B @ current giving levels if in SEC -- hokiewasp 05/07/2021 12:31PM
VT fans weren't massive donors, collectively, even at the program peak -- Synaesthesia 05/07/2021 12:44PM
Because they weren't asked to be. Huge failure of leadership! ** -- NokieHokie 05/07/2021 1:51PM
Whole sales pitch: give money and you can buy football tickets! -- reestuart 05/07/2021 2:09PM
Seller's market for a while. Probably masked by the "sellout" smokescreen. -- TomTurkey 05/07/2021 4:30PM
You pay for the product not the "feel good" attitude $$ makes $$ ** -- hokiewasp 05/07/2021 1:05PM
Yep. We would be a perpetual "bottom feeder" in SEC football. -- EDGEMAN 05/07/2021 10:23AM
It shouldn't come as that big of a surprise since college football -- VTHokie2000 05/07/2021 12:29PM
But at least we'd have a better conference TV network to watch our losses ** -- WildTurkE 05/07/2021 10:50AM
We could very easily, if not most likely, be in worse shape for football -- hoosnowahokie 05/07/2021 08:46AM
Yeah, the bottom could have dropped out just as easily as the opposite. -- reestuart 05/07/2021 10:51AM
VT football likely UK, MSST, or S. Carolina after Spurrier -- Synaesthesia 05/07/2021 09:11AM